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drakesdoom2 ago

So slow it already is covered in radiation.

madmalloy ago

Yep, Fukushima and Chernobyl, nuclear testing, and using DU weapns has done a number.

drakesdoom2 ago

You realize 5g is going into frequency bands that used to be military restricted or are still in use for weather radar but no longer restricted? There are radio broadcasts 24/7 in both higher and lower frequencies. That's before even getting to military radar and communications still in use.

Everything you mentioned is very localized and has zero impact on you.

ViperCarbz ago

You realize this a new type of radiation that follows the curvature of the earth, correct? The wavelength shrinks as it travels making it super dangerous.

drakesdoom2 ago

No it's not. Nothing you said is even possible much less correct.

qwop ago

Well the good thing is ground-based weather radars are pointing mostly at the sky. These do not impact life on the ground as much as having a wireless mobile transmitter outside your bedroom window for example.

Something which is a distinct possibility with small-cell deployment, and already a reality for communities where IoT is being implemented. The UK Gateshead wireless street light management system comes to mind, where they've installed 10mW transmitters on all street lights, some right next to people's bedrooms.

https://i.imgur.com/5dB7Zvb.jpg

This is what 5G will eventually bring with it. You will have a transmitter in every toothbrush, lamp, pot plant, refrigerator, door, or whatever else they will come up with. Cars will also become mobile transmitters, as the latest autonomous driving systems will require sensors in every direction.

As for increasing satellite-based radiation towards the earth, saying "it's already happening" is not a good excuse. It's like saying "well you're already smoking, why not just smoke some more".

Then when it comes to radio or TV broadcasts, they are not harmless either: https://i.imgur.com/IIEkb9O.png
https://i.imgur.com/44ugl6V.png

All of these things are already harming us. We should be advocating for reduction of this pollution, instead of being indifferent or approving its increase.

drakesdoom2 ago

That isn't a 10mw transmitter. It's transmitting either 48w or 96w. That's the absolute maximum because that's all the electric breakers will feed the radios. And remember that power is spread in all directions with some up and down as well.

Newer technology including 5g is reducing rf power levels. Everything you want is already being given to you by what you fight.

No one is going cold on rf broadcasts so don't even bother trying to push for that.

qwop ago

It's 10 mW (ten milliwatt), 0.01 watts. I know, because I looked up the specs from the manufacturer. If it was transmitting at 48 or 96 watts, it would be hundreds of times beyond any safety standards, it would be illegal, and would most likely completely disable the occupants in that house.

As for reducing RF broadcasts, it will happen eventually. I can guarantee it, because there's only so far you can go before the majority of the population will start noticing the detrimental effects.

The number of damaged people is already growing rapidly. In Sweden where EHS (sensitization to electromagnetic radiation) is a medically recognized condition, there are already 250,000 citizens with this impairment. That's 2.5% of the Swedish population. If you translate it to the fully industrialized population, you are already talking about millions of people globally.

It's only a question of how high this group has to grow, before politicians and whole nations will start calling for action. This is inevitable, and it will happen if we continue on this path. There is no doubt about it.