They didn't just use crematoriums though. They would also simply pile up the bodies in a field and burn them that way. Or just dump them in mass graves to be disposed of later when they would putridify.
The (((eyewitness account))) stated that train cars stopped at large furnaces where somehow it would tip over and dump the poor defenseless jews into it.
1) No such large furnaces are found
2) Soot from (((millions))) of vaporized bodies does not wash away over time
3) Bones don't burn easily and would take more time and energy to dispose of per person times a million times six
4) Red Cross in 1970's published the account of people in camps and it was about 300,000 ranging from jewish to gypsy
5) Another more recent account corroborates the Red Cross finding
Like I said they didn't just use large furnaces but would resort to piling the bodies up in a pyre and burning them that way and you don't need to dispose of soot or bones since they can be buried themselves or spread out over a large area. There are actually examples of ash getting used as fertilizer in fields close to the death camps and photographs of ash getting distributed via steam shovel. Apparently having a massive glut of bodies to dispose of was an issue that the Germans had to deal at the time. Also, the Germans were pretty active in covering up their crimes both so that there wouldn't be a panic in their victims as they were being executed and so they wouldn't be held to account later. If they had the time the would demolish the gas chambers and crematoriums as well as dispose of any remains they had in mass graves in these same pyres and destroy as much documentation as possible. They would even go so far as to plant trees over the burial sites to further obfuscate the matter. Before sending the remaining prisoners out on death marches or simply killing them as well. Even then there are still loads of examples where they didn't quite finish the process when the camps were liberated but some of the buildings were still left intact or piles of bodies were left over.
Also, the Red Cross report was taken out of context, which has been backed up themselves, and they were not even in a position to compile statistics about the Holocaust even if they wanted to due to being only allowed to enter a few concentration camps towards the end of the war - also by their own admission. The job of the Red Cross is to help the victims of war not to count the dead. This is just Neo-Nazi propaganda derived from Richard Harwood's "Did Six Million Really Die?" pamphlet that cites evidence that supports his claims such as references to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt which have nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps but ignores anything that contradicts it. And the 300,000 figure is taken out of context since it was only referring to Germans and German Jews, not to the number of people killed in general.
Funny you should mention all the other deaths. I'd like you to look up the Bleiburg Massacre where my great uncle was slaughtered by Bolshevik Serbs and later used as propaganda against the Germans.
Your knowledge of history is corrupted and trying to convince me otherwise will be in vein
As tragic as what happened to your great uncle it doesn't have anything to do with the Holocaust. No one is disputing the fact that the Communists weren't as bad if not worse than the Nazis but arguing that greater crimes diminish lesser crimes is a fallacy because after certain point comparisons are no longer relevant. And a lot of this comes down to the ends: The Holocaust was an attempt at the total annihilation of a people.
Nazism created death camps, while the camps of the gulag were not specifically intended to kill - even if quickly working people to death, seems to be the design. The communists were more interested in wiping out anyone that would cause them problems rather than who they were. To paraphrase Stalin: "Death solves all problems, no man no problem"
view the rest of the comments →
RedditSuxBalls ago
They didn't just use crematoriums though. They would also simply pile up the bodies in a field and burn them that way. Or just dump them in mass graves to be disposed of later when they would putridify.
GHDW ago
The (((eyewitness account))) stated that train cars stopped at large furnaces where somehow it would tip over and dump the poor defenseless jews into it.
1) No such large furnaces are found 2) Soot from (((millions))) of vaporized bodies does not wash away over time 3) Bones don't burn easily and would take more time and energy to dispose of per person times a million times six 4) Red Cross in 1970's published the account of people in camps and it was about 300,000 ranging from jewish to gypsy 5) Another more recent account corroborates the Red Cross finding
RedditSuxBalls ago
Like I said they didn't just use large furnaces but would resort to piling the bodies up in a pyre and burning them that way and you don't need to dispose of soot or bones since they can be buried themselves or spread out over a large area. There are actually examples of ash getting used as fertilizer in fields close to the death camps and photographs of ash getting distributed via steam shovel. Apparently having a massive glut of bodies to dispose of was an issue that the Germans had to deal at the time. Also, the Germans were pretty active in covering up their crimes both so that there wouldn't be a panic in their victims as they were being executed and so they wouldn't be held to account later. If they had the time the would demolish the gas chambers and crematoriums as well as dispose of any remains they had in mass graves in these same pyres and destroy as much documentation as possible. They would even go so far as to plant trees over the burial sites to further obfuscate the matter. Before sending the remaining prisoners out on death marches or simply killing them as well. Even then there are still loads of examples where they didn't quite finish the process when the camps were liberated but some of the buildings were still left intact or piles of bodies were left over.
Also, the Red Cross report was taken out of context, which has been backed up themselves, and they were not even in a position to compile statistics about the Holocaust even if they wanted to due to being only allowed to enter a few concentration camps towards the end of the war - also by their own admission. The job of the Red Cross is to help the victims of war not to count the dead. This is just Neo-Nazi propaganda derived from Richard Harwood's "Did Six Million Really Die?" pamphlet that cites evidence that supports his claims such as references to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt which have nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps but ignores anything that contradicts it. And the 300,000 figure is taken out of context since it was only referring to Germans and German Jews, not to the number of people killed in general.
GHDW ago
Funny you should mention all the other deaths. I'd like you to look up the Bleiburg Massacre where my great uncle was slaughtered by Bolshevik Serbs and later used as propaganda against the Germans.
Your knowledge of history is corrupted and trying to convince me otherwise will be in vein
RedditSuxBalls ago
As tragic as what happened to your great uncle it doesn't have anything to do with the Holocaust. No one is disputing the fact that the Communists weren't as bad if not worse than the Nazis but arguing that greater crimes diminish lesser crimes is a fallacy because after certain point comparisons are no longer relevant. And a lot of this comes down to the ends: The Holocaust was an attempt at the total annihilation of a people.
Nazism created death camps, while the camps of the gulag were not specifically intended to kill - even if quickly working people to death, seems to be the design. The communists were more interested in wiping out anyone that would cause them problems rather than who they were. To paraphrase Stalin: "Death solves all problems, no man no problem"
GHDW ago
Your lies are scripted, your life is owned by money, begone demon the power of Jesus Christ of Nazareth compels you
RedditSuxBalls ago
You're a loony.
GHDW ago
Your attacks help me, thank you